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i am supportive of israel but i'm not going to zero game between israel and neighbors, but also have vital national security relationships with the united states let's bring in our panel. steve hayes, juan williams and charles krauthammer. steve? >> i think the quote you read is offensive. its clownish view of what people have been arguing both with respect to protecting national security but the threat that iranian poses to the united states of america. i think one of the areas in which hagel has shown himself to be president obama's left, and he has in a variety of different places, is the question of iran. hagel ruled out a military strike would be unreasonable, it would be foolish to do that. something that the obama administration despite fact i think they have taken a rather accommodating and patient approach has never done. the second one he proposed establishing an interest section in tehran at a time we knew, we had increasing evidence of the efforts that the iranians were make to kill u.s. soldiers on the ground in afghanistan and iraq. they were making progress on nuclear
i am supportive of israel but i'm not going to zero game between israel and neighbors, but also have vital national security relationships with the united states let's bring in our panel. steve hayes, juan williams and charles krauthammer. steve? >> i think the quote you read is offensive. its clownish view of what people have been arguing both with respect to protecting national security but the threat that iranian poses to the united states of america. i think one of the areas in which...
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>> well, two categories here and the thing that wendell was talking about with pro-israel groups is a big deal. the things that he's said, he referred to the jewish lobby, which is a charged phrase when talking about groups in the united states that support israel, they're strong opposition among conservative pro-israel factions in the united states, but there's also among liberals misgiving and they want to hear from hagel, bowing and scraping and carden and others who are pro israel want to hear hagel say, i'm sorry, i shouldn't have. we may be on the verge of that great washington phrase "inartfully phrased", and then the second half, the fact that republicans dislike him more than they dislike some democrats, not just because of the israel stuff, but in 2006 and 2007 when republicans were taking an incredible amount of abuse because of what was going on in the iraq war, hagel changed his position, he had been a supporter of the war, he changed his position, came out against the war and vigorously, he was the most outspoken opponent among the republican party against the iraq surge
>> well, two categories here and the thing that wendell was talking about with pro-israel groups is a big deal. the things that he's said, he referred to the jewish lobby, which is a charged phrase when talking about groups in the united states that support israel, they're strong opposition among conservative pro-israel factions in the united states, but there's also among liberals misgiving and they want to hear from hagel, bowing and scraping and carden and others who are pro israel...
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policien issues like israel and iran. want to check in now with nbc white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, when we talk about what's leading up to this announcement, we're still 90 minutes out from it, but there's a lot of political controversy around chuck hagel. the question is is the president and the white house really up for this bruising type of confirmation? >> reporter: it seems pretty clear that they are. and the president's obviously very confident and has a close relationship with chuck hagel. the two of them traveled to both iraq and afghanistan together when president obama was then senator obama at the time. we got sort of tipped off to some of the talking points that you will likely hear parroted over the next couple weeks from the white house when it comes to chuck hagel. they refer to him as a straight shooter. they say he understands the world stage. also really focus on the fact that he is a combat veteran. recognize the significance of that, thomas. if he is to be nominated as he will be jus
policien issues like israel and iran. want to check in now with nbc white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, when we talk about what's leading up to this announcement, we're still 90 minutes out from it, but there's a lot of political controversy around chuck hagel. the question is is the president and the white house really up for this bruising type of confirmation? >> reporter: it seems pretty clear that they are. and the president's obviously very confident and has a close...
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and the pro-israel lobby. it's a statement of fact in washington, d.c. that the government of israel and the pro-israel lobby is quite powerful and it does intimidate some people on capitol hill. he was too candid to say some of those things? probably. he has his vietnam war history. the thing that puts him out of place in today's republican party -- some of it is personal. remember, you had a group in the senate. john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group of vietnam veterans back in the bush administration who were more, i would say, in the colin powell wing of the republican party. war is a last resort. if you do have war, use overwhelming force. and then the neo con movement came in. you will have philosophical arguments over america in the world and the use of force. >> as john just points out, these two men were great buddies once upon a time. >> both vietnam veterans. >> both vietnam vets, decorated heroes and they were really close. then they started splitting over
and the pro-israel lobby. it's a statement of fact in washington, d.c. that the government of israel and the pro-israel lobby is quite powerful and it does intimidate some people on capitol hill. he was too candid to say some of those things? probably. he has his vietnam war history. the thing that puts him out of place in today's republican party -- some of it is personal. remember, you had a group in the senate. john kerry, a democrat. bob kerrey, a democrat. chuck hagel, john mccain. a group...
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carol, senator hagel has a long record of support for israel, support for israel's security. i think this is an outstanding choice by president obama because senator hagel is clearly, without any question, one of the most knowledgeable and sperexperienced leaders we on foreign defense policy. he's got a long record of support for the u.s. military, and he's a combat veteran in vietnam. so he's seen war. i think he's going to add weight to the cabinet, and he's going to work well with the president and be a real boost for our foreign and defense policy. >> what do you suppose he meant when he said the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here? what did he mean by that? >> i don't know what he meant specifically, but i know the remark was made some time ago, and i know that senator hagel has been very consistently supportive of the obligation and interests that the united states has to support israel's security. he has never deviated from that. he's also been -- and i know this because i was involved in iran policy in the bush administration -- a very strong supporter of
carol, senator hagel has a long record of support for israel, support for israel's security. i think this is an outstanding choice by president obama because senator hagel is clearly, without any question, one of the most knowledgeable and sperexperienced leaders we on foreign defense policy. he's got a long record of support for the u.s. military, and he's a combat veteran in vietnam. so he's seen war. i think he's going to add weight to the cabinet, and he's going to work well with the...
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it is not just that people have specific disagreements with him on iran or on israel. but i think many republicans see him as a man who sort of strayed from the flock. sometimes you take the criticism most strongly from your own people if they feel like you haven't been true to the cause so to speak. senator hagel his defenders and his fans and i think i'm one of them would say he displayed admirable thought. kit there has been some issues i will take the iraq surge for example where he was against it at the beginning. a lot of us were dubious about it at the beginning but one isn't quite sure if he revised his views once it clearly succeeded in its own military logic. itle be interesting to see what he will say in the confirmation hearings. that will reflect to which he is empirical and open minded and open to new evidence. those are some of the questions he will have to confront. >> shepard: some are making the argument this is a man who will bring into the public discourse the failures in iraq and afghanistan as they might relate to anything going forward with iran.
it is not just that people have specific disagreements with him on iran or on israel. but i think many republicans see him as a man who sort of strayed from the flock. sometimes you take the criticism most strongly from your own people if they feel like you haven't been true to the cause so to speak. senator hagel his defenders and his fans and i think i'm one of them would say he displayed admirable thought. kit there has been some issues i will take the iraq surge for example where he was...
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and our relationship with israel? there is a lot of very important questions that these senators who are the ones that will be able to ask those questions, will ask of these nominees. jenna: mark, you often brief lawmakers of both parties about a variety of international policies issues. what are some of the top questions that need to be asked of both of these individuals? >> i actually do think it is about iran, iran. after the dream team of hillary, panetta and pell tray you -- petraeus, the senate will have to scrutinize the records of all three of these gentlemen. for senator hagel his record on iran has been puzzling. he refused tos designate the iranian revolutionary guard core as a. obama administration is using to put pressure on iran and the senate will ask some tough questions why he refused to sign a letter to the european union calling for the designation of hezbollah as a terrorist organization when actually john brennan spent the past two years relentlessly trying to convince the e.u. to designate hezbol
and our relationship with israel? there is a lot of very important questions that these senators who are the ones that will be able to ask those questions, will ask of these nominees. jenna: mark, you often brief lawmakers of both parties about a variety of international policies issues. what are some of the top questions that need to be asked of both of these individuals? >> i actually do think it is about iran, iran. after the dream team of hillary, panetta and pell tray you --...
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israel is building a fence along the border with syria. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says it's necessary to protect israel. violence continues to escalate in syria and there is growing concern about chemical weapons in that region. >> meanwhile, seaside height, new jersey, residents will be able to spend the night in their house against for the first time since super storm sandy hit. over 100 certificates deeming the home safe to live in were handed out and residents were told they don't have to follow a 10 p.m. curfew anymore. good news for those folks. >>gretchen: by now we've seen that map posted by a new york newspaper pinpointing local gun homeowner addresses. guards and families information appears ton that map. a rockland county sherrif appears about all of that. we were expressing in the commercial break i don't think people understood the domino effect. now inmates are threatening guards. in what way? >> they are saying we know where you live. we know where your family lives. we can retaliate if in fact we choose to. it's a t
israel is building a fence along the border with syria. prime minister benjamin netanyahu says it's necessary to protect israel. violence continues to escalate in syria and there is growing concern about chemical weapons in that region. >> meanwhile, seaside height, new jersey, residents will be able to spend the night in their house against for the first time since super storm sandy hit. over 100 certificates deeming the home safe to live in were handed out and residents were told they...
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and he's doing it while in israel. the kentucky senator speaking in jerusalem today argues that we can't afford to keep giving money to other countries adding it would be tougher for us to be an ally of israel if we're broke. right now, we give israel about $3 billion in military aid. paul has been against u.s. spending abroad for a long time now. but he did add we should first cut back to countries like pakistan and egypt and that we shouldn't disengage from israel entirely but rather we should be selling armaments and not giving them away. paul recently joined the senate foreign relationses committee. this is his very first trip to israel. some trouble for him on the homefront, too this weekend his 19-year-old son was arrested at the airport in charlotte north carolina. allegedly for being drunk. william paul detained and booked for underage consumption disorderly conduct and being intoxicated and disruptive. senator paul's office released a statement asking for privacy and respect. >>> and it seems like mississippi
and he's doing it while in israel. the kentucky senator speaking in jerusalem today argues that we can't afford to keep giving money to other countries adding it would be tougher for us to be an ally of israel if we're broke. right now, we give israel about $3 billion in military aid. paul has been against u.s. spending abroad for a long time now. but he did add we should first cut back to countries like pakistan and egypt and that we shouldn't disengage from israel entirely but rather we...